This was recorded last month, but is still relevant. Andrew asked many of the questions I find being raised by ordinary people who are increasingly suspicious of their governments.
Some thoughts on conspiracy theories. As Alasdair rightly pointed out, the people who go to the WEF are actually not the brightest. Nassim Taleb describes that type of person as "Intellectual yet Idiot" (https://nassimtaleb.org/2016/09/intellectual-yet-idiot/). They think that they know better than everyone else, but are actually totally deluded.
None of this is new. Vaclav Havel describes this very well in his essay The Power of the Powerless:
"...ideology becomes at the same time an increasingly important component of power, a pillar providing it with both excusatory legitimacy and an inner coherence. As this aspect grows in importance, and as it gradually loses touch with reality, it acquires a peculiar but very real strength. It becomes reality itself, albeit a reality altogether self-contained, one that on certain levels (chiefly inside the power structure) may have even greater weight than reality as such. Increasingly, the virtuosity of the ritual becomes more important than the reality hidden behind it."
I also find Matthias Desmet's theory on mass formation (https://words.mattiasdesmet.org/p/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism) very helpful to understand the world we are living in today and would recommend his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism to everyone who's interested in these things.
The work of Iain McGilchrist has been another eye-opener for me. He connects societal decline and our failing elites to neuroscience. I really enjoyed his books, but they aren't easy reads. Fortunately, many of his talks are available on Youtube, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQ4Hi7YdgU
I believe there are powerful people who push their agendas and try to misuse political power, but it's not a big coordinated plan to enslave the world. Most of it can be explained with human psychology. Many of the involved people are motivated by money, power and status and others are just totally deluded by their ideology.
Very interesting + some very good links - Thank You etc .
This said I ( lot's of us ) have a huge log of properly fact checkable information and data
which irrefutably proves and underlines the fact that WEF / DAVOS doesn't comprise in its entirety per a talking shop for a vast array of delusional billionaire plutocrats ( some - Yes )
whose main aim is to save the planet ( man made climate change anyone ..!! ) , to feed the poor & starving ( Genetically modified crops & laboratory meat anyone ..!! )- & of course to keep everyone fit & healthy via ' Big Pharma ' + Bill Gates / Club Of Rome / Deagel Report / Rockefeller Foundation Lock step Report 2010 / United Nations Agenda 25 and Agenda 2030 + Covid Plandemic 2021..... anyone ..?? ) . NO - not simply a meeting af the great and the good to benefit the planet and humanity ..BUT INSTEAD a meeting of Globalist Psycopaths & Sociopaths forwarding a massive Eugenics plan with a view to mass-depopulation of this world as we now know it .....Join the Dots people - this plan
has been in place for years and years and was kicked into top gear as from early 2021 and has been accelerating ever since . FOR ANYONE's INTEREST SEE LINKS BELOW .
I don't reject what you said and I have certainly become a lot more open-minded over the last few years. Most of the so-called conspiracy theories have at least some truth in them. I agree that there are horrible people, in politics, think tanks and all those national and international organisations, who do terrible things in a more or less coordinated way. What I'm sceptical about is the theory that there is ONE coordinated plan. I know there are all those people at the UN who seemingly work together and seem very much aligned, but I think it's more likely that there are many powerful people, all with their own agendas, who sometimes work with each other and sometimes against each other. Take the Iraq war in 2003, for example. We all know that the alleged weapons of mass destruction didn't exist and everyone who has looked into it a bit more knows that it was largely about US dominance in the Middle East and to help Israel. It was a Neocon project, pushed mainly by lunatics in the US and UK. But most of the UN members were neutral or openly against it. We have a similar situation in the current conflict between US/Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah. They don't even agree on everything openly and there are surely many more disagreements behind the scenes.
I'm convinced that the Neocons really believed their own propaganda, at least to some extent. They really believed that it was right to fight this war for the greater good, the Iraqi people, Western ideals, whatever. They believed their own propaganda and their ideology became their reality, as Havel described it. Sure, they also wanted power and help their friends in the oil industry, keep the US defence industry going and maybe wanted to secure lucrative consultancy gigs or think tank scholarships in the future, but I'm convinced that invading Iraq was far more than a calculated rational career/business decision. It was driven by ideology and the involved people thought that they were doing the right thing, whatever that meant in their twisted minds. I think we see this in many other areas.
The technocratic mindset is basically what Iain McGilchrist describes as "left hemisphere thinking". There is a problem, real or imagined, and some rather intelligent but at the same time deluded people think that they can control and resolve it with technology and technocratic management, computer models, regulation, economic policies, mRNA, AI, whatever. They confuse the "map" with reality, which is always more complex than any of their models or theories. More often than not their predictions turn out to be wrong and when they implement their "clever solutions", they are typically confronted with failure or unintended consequences. That doesn't stop them. There is always something that can explain their failure, usually that their advice wasn't followed enough. They really believe that their climate or economic models can predict the future and that mRNA, AI and their wise, globally coordinated technocratic leadership with all the nudging and clever regulation will make the world a better place. They don't consider themselves evil, they think that they are the good ones.
There is another side to this. Large parts of the population in Western democracies actually expect politicians and "experts" to decide and run things for them. Everyone complains about the useless and corrupt politicians and elites, but at the same time most people expect the same useless and corrupt people to sort out housing, healthcare, education, manage their pension and a myriad of other things. It's like asking your dog to do your homework and leads very predictably to unwanted outcomes. Their naive hope is that we could somehow replace the corrupt elites with honest people, who finally deliver what we want and deserve. Obviously, this never happens.
Anyway, this is a rough outline of my working theory of the world. Thanks for reading this far. I'm certainly not denying the reality of the globalist blob and the many dumb and terrible things these people do, but I think their motivations are complex and their actions less rational and coordinated than many people assume.
Cheers Alasdair. He certainly has an inquisitive mind. As I've said before, same subject but from a different perspective. Keeps you on your toes and interesting for us. I hope he asks you back by the spring time to get a perspective of where we are going. Thanks for bringing it us.
Thought this was an excellent interview conducted by an excellent and well informed interviewer per Mr Stack - who clearly is on the same page as you and your band of followers here at
' Macleod Finance ' .
Only one thing I can't entirely agree with , are your thoughts on the W.E.F. as being a fairly harmless meeting of mega-rich narcissist's who are mainly there to network and compare the length of the fuselage's of their respective Gulfstream VI's ..etc .
Virtually all of these people have amassed Croesus levels of wealth - such that they've no need to network in the way most of us think of it - just to add to their already bulging accounts and vast list of material possessions . What they're really there for though in networking terms is to add to & coordinate structures of power and control by which to subjugate the rest of humanity per we the " Great Unwashed " / the " Hoi Poloi " etc , and to bleed us dry through vast over-regulation and mind boggling levels of direct and in direct taxation - whilst they , their companies , bank accounts , trust's and foundation's have all achieved a tax free status through ultimate holding companies based in such as - Liechtenstein / Bermuda / Netherlands Antilles /
Gibraltar / Panama ( PANAMA PAPERS ANYONE ..?? ) / the Cayman Islands + closer to home
in the Isle Of Man / Jersey , and Guernsey ..etc..etc...etc .
You may not be fully aware or have yet descended down to the murky depth's of this ongoing crime scene to discover the true extent of what's really been going on and by whom it is still -
( but hopefully not for too much longer ) .. being driven etc . For a number of years I've been privvy to information and data which clearly proves and underline's the fact that the W.E.F. isn't just some meeting of the minds of Global Government / Influencers and Trans-National Corporate interests who all meet at Davos with the protection and betterment of humanity and health of this planet as of paramount importance ......anything but - quite the reverse in fact .
The ' New World Order ' / ' One World Government ' and ' Single World Religion ' isn't just some fantastical notion or conspiracy theory dreamt up by a bunch of mad-men . No , it's a reality that
was formulated , planned and put into action by a cabal of Mad Men ( Read - Evil Men ) over a period of century's - not just a handful of decades . This ' Hell-Scape ' that we're all witnessing
and living through right now hasn't come about due to a vast series of mistakes made by well educated and experienced individuals who then say after the fact - " We didn't see it coming - none of us ( nobody ) could have foresorn any of this " . Well their correct here , but only because everything including the time-line has been pre-planned from eons back and the people who will all be claiming complete ignorance of what comes to pass - are simply the actors who are on stage to oversee this last section of the Play - but there's no way on earth
any of them can say they didn't see it coming . They all knew and have known what the
end game is going to be for years and years - for which systemic global financial collapse is just the trigger point that will unleash all manner of devastation and destruction in its wake .
And ' No ' - I'm not some tin foil hat wearing Nut Job / Conspiracy Theorist whose just been let out on day release from the local ' Funny Farm ' - I'm a fact and data fed ' Conspiracy Realist ' whose witnessed in real time all manner of ' Conspiracy Theories ' that I , and any number of others have known and done our best to wake up friends , family and colleagues to , all to merge into the cold light of day and whereby we've been proven as being right over the target
all along , having been roundly mocked and ridiculed by many people who are waking up far too late in the day - and who will as a consequence soon be reaping the whirlwind .
Here is a Link to a speech made only a few ours ago by JAVIER MILEI to a full house at the 2025 WEF conference in Davos - and where he's given the assorted scum bags and panjandrum's
both barrel's per highlighting and exposing this evil cabal and their policy's for what they are +
put them on notice that droves of ' We ' - " The Little People " have finally awoken to their agenda and financial & political tyranny and will be moving heaven and earth to remove the
jackboots of the WEF / WHO / Bought & Paid For Politicians + many others from all of our collective throats in the very near future ..etc . SORRY FOR THE VERBOSITY ..!! .
Alisdair, at minute 28 you explained the accounting of issuing debt to governments. I did not quite understand how that increases the assets accounting...?
Some thoughts on conspiracy theories. As Alasdair rightly pointed out, the people who go to the WEF are actually not the brightest. Nassim Taleb describes that type of person as "Intellectual yet Idiot" (https://nassimtaleb.org/2016/09/intellectual-yet-idiot/). They think that they know better than everyone else, but are actually totally deluded.
None of this is new. Vaclav Havel describes this very well in his essay The Power of the Powerless:
"...ideology becomes at the same time an increasingly important component of power, a pillar providing it with both excusatory legitimacy and an inner coherence. As this aspect grows in importance, and as it gradually loses touch with reality, it acquires a peculiar but very real strength. It becomes reality itself, albeit a reality altogether self-contained, one that on certain levels (chiefly inside the power structure) may have even greater weight than reality as such. Increasingly, the virtuosity of the ritual becomes more important than the reality hidden behind it."
https://archive.org/details/vaclav-havel-power-of-the-powerless/page/12/mode/2up
I also find Matthias Desmet's theory on mass formation (https://words.mattiasdesmet.org/p/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism) very helpful to understand the world we are living in today and would recommend his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism to everyone who's interested in these things.
The work of Iain McGilchrist has been another eye-opener for me. He connects societal decline and our failing elites to neuroscience. I really enjoyed his books, but they aren't easy reads. Fortunately, many of his talks are available on Youtube, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQ4Hi7YdgU
I believe there are powerful people who push their agendas and try to misuse political power, but it's not a big coordinated plan to enslave the world. Most of it can be explained with human psychology. Many of the involved people are motivated by money, power and status and others are just totally deluded by their ideology.
Very interesting + some very good links - Thank You etc .
This said I ( lot's of us ) have a huge log of properly fact checkable information and data
which irrefutably proves and underlines the fact that WEF / DAVOS doesn't comprise in its entirety per a talking shop for a vast array of delusional billionaire plutocrats ( some - Yes )
whose main aim is to save the planet ( man made climate change anyone ..!! ) , to feed the poor & starving ( Genetically modified crops & laboratory meat anyone ..!! )- & of course to keep everyone fit & healthy via ' Big Pharma ' + Bill Gates / Club Of Rome / Deagel Report / Rockefeller Foundation Lock step Report 2010 / United Nations Agenda 25 and Agenda 2030 + Covid Plandemic 2021..... anyone ..?? ) . NO - not simply a meeting af the great and the good to benefit the planet and humanity ..BUT INSTEAD a meeting of Globalist Psycopaths & Sociopaths forwarding a massive Eugenics plan with a view to mass-depopulation of this world as we now know it .....Join the Dots people - this plan
has been in place for years and years and was kicked into top gear as from early 2021 and has been accelerating ever since . FOR ANYONE's INTEREST SEE LINKS BELOW .
* www.archive.org/details/lock-step-rockefeller-foundation-/mode/2up
* www.ru,ble.com/v4vzdxr-deagel-report-html
* www.rumble.com/v5d8w45-unsustainable-the-uns-agenda-for-world-domination-html
Thanks for your reply and the links!
The first two links don't work, but I managed to figure them out:
https://archive.org/details/lock-step-rockefeller-foundation
https://rumble.com/v4vzdxr-deagel-report.html
I don't reject what you said and I have certainly become a lot more open-minded over the last few years. Most of the so-called conspiracy theories have at least some truth in them. I agree that there are horrible people, in politics, think tanks and all those national and international organisations, who do terrible things in a more or less coordinated way. What I'm sceptical about is the theory that there is ONE coordinated plan. I know there are all those people at the UN who seemingly work together and seem very much aligned, but I think it's more likely that there are many powerful people, all with their own agendas, who sometimes work with each other and sometimes against each other. Take the Iraq war in 2003, for example. We all know that the alleged weapons of mass destruction didn't exist and everyone who has looked into it a bit more knows that it was largely about US dominance in the Middle East and to help Israel. It was a Neocon project, pushed mainly by lunatics in the US and UK. But most of the UN members were neutral or openly against it. We have a similar situation in the current conflict between US/Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah. They don't even agree on everything openly and there are surely many more disagreements behind the scenes.
I'm convinced that the Neocons really believed their own propaganda, at least to some extent. They really believed that it was right to fight this war for the greater good, the Iraqi people, Western ideals, whatever. They believed their own propaganda and their ideology became their reality, as Havel described it. Sure, they also wanted power and help their friends in the oil industry, keep the US defence industry going and maybe wanted to secure lucrative consultancy gigs or think tank scholarships in the future, but I'm convinced that invading Iraq was far more than a calculated rational career/business decision. It was driven by ideology and the involved people thought that they were doing the right thing, whatever that meant in their twisted minds. I think we see this in many other areas.
The technocratic mindset is basically what Iain McGilchrist describes as "left hemisphere thinking". There is a problem, real or imagined, and some rather intelligent but at the same time deluded people think that they can control and resolve it with technology and technocratic management, computer models, regulation, economic policies, mRNA, AI, whatever. They confuse the "map" with reality, which is always more complex than any of their models or theories. More often than not their predictions turn out to be wrong and when they implement their "clever solutions", they are typically confronted with failure or unintended consequences. That doesn't stop them. There is always something that can explain their failure, usually that their advice wasn't followed enough. They really believe that their climate or economic models can predict the future and that mRNA, AI and their wise, globally coordinated technocratic leadership with all the nudging and clever regulation will make the world a better place. They don't consider themselves evil, they think that they are the good ones.
There is another side to this. Large parts of the population in Western democracies actually expect politicians and "experts" to decide and run things for them. Everyone complains about the useless and corrupt politicians and elites, but at the same time most people expect the same useless and corrupt people to sort out housing, healthcare, education, manage their pension and a myriad of other things. It's like asking your dog to do your homework and leads very predictably to unwanted outcomes. Their naive hope is that we could somehow replace the corrupt elites with honest people, who finally deliver what we want and deserve. Obviously, this never happens.
Anyway, this is a rough outline of my working theory of the world. Thanks for reading this far. I'm certainly not denying the reality of the globalist blob and the many dumb and terrible things these people do, but I think their motivations are complex and their actions less rational and coordinated than many people assume.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt!
Cheers Alasdair. He certainly has an inquisitive mind. As I've said before, same subject but from a different perspective. Keeps you on your toes and interesting for us. I hope he asks you back by the spring time to get a perspective of where we are going. Thanks for bringing it us.
Thank you Alasdair.
Thought this was an excellent interview conducted by an excellent and well informed interviewer per Mr Stack - who clearly is on the same page as you and your band of followers here at
' Macleod Finance ' .
Only one thing I can't entirely agree with , are your thoughts on the W.E.F. as being a fairly harmless meeting of mega-rich narcissist's who are mainly there to network and compare the length of the fuselage's of their respective Gulfstream VI's ..etc .
Virtually all of these people have amassed Croesus levels of wealth - such that they've no need to network in the way most of us think of it - just to add to their already bulging accounts and vast list of material possessions . What they're really there for though in networking terms is to add to & coordinate structures of power and control by which to subjugate the rest of humanity per we the " Great Unwashed " / the " Hoi Poloi " etc , and to bleed us dry through vast over-regulation and mind boggling levels of direct and in direct taxation - whilst they , their companies , bank accounts , trust's and foundation's have all achieved a tax free status through ultimate holding companies based in such as - Liechtenstein / Bermuda / Netherlands Antilles /
Gibraltar / Panama ( PANAMA PAPERS ANYONE ..?? ) / the Cayman Islands + closer to home
in the Isle Of Man / Jersey , and Guernsey ..etc..etc...etc .
You may not be fully aware or have yet descended down to the murky depth's of this ongoing crime scene to discover the true extent of what's really been going on and by whom it is still -
( but hopefully not for too much longer ) .. being driven etc . For a number of years I've been privvy to information and data which clearly proves and underline's the fact that the W.E.F. isn't just some meeting of the minds of Global Government / Influencers and Trans-National Corporate interests who all meet at Davos with the protection and betterment of humanity and health of this planet as of paramount importance ......anything but - quite the reverse in fact .
The ' New World Order ' / ' One World Government ' and ' Single World Religion ' isn't just some fantastical notion or conspiracy theory dreamt up by a bunch of mad-men . No , it's a reality that
was formulated , planned and put into action by a cabal of Mad Men ( Read - Evil Men ) over a period of century's - not just a handful of decades . This ' Hell-Scape ' that we're all witnessing
and living through right now hasn't come about due to a vast series of mistakes made by well educated and experienced individuals who then say after the fact - " We didn't see it coming - none of us ( nobody ) could have foresorn any of this " . Well their correct here , but only because everything including the time-line has been pre-planned from eons back and the people who will all be claiming complete ignorance of what comes to pass - are simply the actors who are on stage to oversee this last section of the Play - but there's no way on earth
any of them can say they didn't see it coming . They all knew and have known what the
end game is going to be for years and years - for which systemic global financial collapse is just the trigger point that will unleash all manner of devastation and destruction in its wake .
And ' No ' - I'm not some tin foil hat wearing Nut Job / Conspiracy Theorist whose just been let out on day release from the local ' Funny Farm ' - I'm a fact and data fed ' Conspiracy Realist ' whose witnessed in real time all manner of ' Conspiracy Theories ' that I , and any number of others have known and done our best to wake up friends , family and colleagues to , all to merge into the cold light of day and whereby we've been proven as being right over the target
all along , having been roundly mocked and ridiculed by many people who are waking up far too late in the day - and who will as a consequence soon be reaping the whirlwind .
Here is a Link to a speech made only a few ours ago by JAVIER MILEI to a full house at the 2025 WEF conference in Davos - and where he's given the assorted scum bags and panjandrum's
both barrel's per highlighting and exposing this evil cabal and their policy's for what they are +
put them on notice that droves of ' We ' - " The Little People " have finally awoken to their agenda and financial & political tyranny and will be moving heaven and earth to remove the
jackboots of the WEF / WHO / Bought & Paid For Politicians + many others from all of our collective throats in the very near future ..etc . SORRY FOR THE VERBOSITY ..!! .
LINK : www.youtube.com/watch?vATNbGD37D=0&t=10s
Alisdair, at minute 28 you explained the accounting of issuing debt to governments. I did not quite understand how that increases the assets accounting...?
Alasdair haden't the time to answer the last questen: Is there a backroom deal betwen Russia, China and America?
My answer woud be, look at the goldstock.
I certainly hope the Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas either . Hilarious comment…. Still laughing. Thank you.